He looks down at the smoking crater, then back up at Joe.

"We're all dead, old man," he says, "it's just a matter of when."

Joe's not someone he really wants to kill. "Don't you see? The people you work with, the squabble in the dirt, they come up with their half-baked plans, but there's not a hero among them. Not really. Not even you. And even if there were, that can't fight this."